New name, same problems?

Definitely NOT the Child Support AgencySo the body that will replace the Child Support Agency is to be called the "Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission". I wonder whether in a few years time that will be a name that is held in any higher esteem than "Child Support Agency". Gone is the term 'child support', and we return to the old term (still used by the courts): 'child maintenance'. I also note the emphasis on 'enforcement', more of which in a moment.

Much of the rest of today's announcement by Work and Pensions Secretary John Hutton is not news, having been mentioned/hinted at/leaked already. However, there are some interesting points:

  • Importantly, the CSA's 3.5 billion pounds of debt will not be written off - good news for those thousands of parents waiting for payment, although how much of this will ever be seen is another matter.
  • The proposals include a plan to make it compulsory to have the father's name recorded on the birth certificate 'to help future enforcement', although I'm not sure exactly how this is going to work.
  • Extra enforcement powers "will include the imposition of new curfews and the surrendering of passports, piloting mandatory withholding of wages as the first means of collecting maintenance and exploring [with?] the financial services sector new powers to collect maintenance from accounts held by financial institutions". So, we may have attachment of earnings without any failure to pay, and garnishee "orders".
  • Removal of the requirement to apply to the courts for a liability order before taking enforcement action. It makes me nervous that the Commission will be free to take enforcement action without the independent 'check' of the court.
  • Powers to recover debt from estates of the deceased. I was going to make a joke about not being able to rest in peace, but then I remembered that some parents have been driven to suicide by how much they have been required to pay.

  • Lastly, the CMEC will charge the non resident parent for it's services. I'm sure this will go down well with NRPs.
Hands up if any of you are confident that these proposals will dramatically improve the assessment and collection of child maintenance. No, I thought not. Still, I suppose the CMEC can't do any worse than the CSA, or at least I hope it can't.

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  1. Importantly, the CSA's 3.5 billion pounds of debt will not be written off - good news for those thousands of parents waiting for payment, although how much of this will ever be seen is another matter. MY CHILDREN WILL SEE THIS WHEN THEY ARE IN THERE 70'S

    The proposals include a plan to make it compulsory to have the father's name recorded on the birth certificate 'to help future enforcement', although I'm not sure exactly how this is going to work. SO THE NAME IS ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE DOES HE PAY ERRRR NO!!!

    Extra enforcement powers "will include the imposition of new curfews and the surrendering of passports, piloting mandatory withholding of wages as the first means of collecting maintenance and exploring [with?] the financial services sector new powers to collect maintenance from accounts held by financial institutions". So, we may have attachment of earnings without any failure to pay, and garnishee "orders". THEY WILL NOT INVESTIGATE EVERY HIGH STREET BANK, IN MY CASE THEY DID ONE, THE ABBEY. WHEN I CALLED ALL OF THE OTHERS NATWEST, HSBC, LLOYDS, NATIONWIDE, HALIFAX THEY ALL AGREED TO DIVULGE THIS INFORMATION UPON REQUEST....DID THE CSA BOTHER....ERRRRR NO!!!

    Removal of the requirement to apply to the courts for a liability order before taking enforcement action. It makes me nervous that the Commission will be free to take enforcement action without the independent 'check' of the court. THE CSA ENFORCEMENT TEAM ARE NOT ARMED WITH THE FULL FACTS WHEN PRESENTING THE CASES AT COURT, HENCE NEVER GETTING THE FULL STORY ACROSS TO A RESIDING JUDGE. I'M NOT ALLOWED TO ATTEND COURT AS APPARENTLY IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME....IF I DIDN'T HAVE THE CHILDREN WITH THE MAN I AM DIVORCED FROM THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A JOB, SO IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH AS THERE LEGAL GUARDIAN, BUT LETS RECAP THEY DO NOT HAVE A DUTY OF CARE TO ME OR MY CHILDREN.

    Powers to recover debt from estates of the deceased. I was going to make a joke about not being able to rest in peace, but then I remembered that some parents have been driven to suicide by how much they have been required to pay. THIS IS TRUE, THIS IS ALSO TRUE WHEN SEPERATED PARENTS HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITHOUT THE CSA AND THEN THEY STICK THERE SORRY NOSES INTO A PROBLEM THAT WAS NEVER BROKEN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    Lastly, the CMEC will charge the non resident parent for it's services. I'm sure this will go down well with NRPs.THEY CAN'T GET THE MAINTENANCE OUT OF THEM HOW ON EARTH DO THEY THINK THEY WILL GET A FINE OUT OF THEM....I CAN SEE ME FOOTING THE BILL AS I HAVE NO CHOICE OTHER THAN TO USE THESE MORANS

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  2. Lisa

    "I'M NOT ALLOWED TO ATTEND COURT AS APPARENTLY IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME...."

    You can't for an LO, but you can regarding a charging order. I did.

    The CSA could only tell me the date of the hearing under DPA. It's pretty obvious the hearing will be held in the court nearest to his home.

    I simply phoned the court and asked what time the hearing was for the CSA v NRP name.

    I was even allowed into the court room itself.

    I made damn sure the CPO had a CSA solicitor with her too.

    It sure was a great feeling watching him squirm and witness the CO against it.

    Pity they can't go for the Order of sale. I told them he would pay up before it went to court, but they won't listen.

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  3. Wow good for you...i was warned off and on one occassion when i did turn up (Your right it's not rocket science to work our which court) i was spoken to like a piece of shit by the court welfare officer....this was like a red rag to a bull, i probably didn't help myself in this instance, but then he didn't turn up anyway....next time i shall put in a 'GUEST APPEARANCE'

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  4. I work for the DWP and am appalled by the way my child support claim has been handled.

    It's traggic that PWC (mainly women)in particular are suffering and struggling to cope with their responsibility to bring up children despite the NRP's (mainly men) who clearly can afford to pay are allowed to make a mockery of our department.

    For most of the civil servants in DWP are sympathetic but are demoralised by government reforms.

    My own personal experience with the CSA has been tragic/frustrating and uneconomical to say the least...and that's with good relations with my daughter's father (NRP) and despite our joint efforts to help the CSA to do their job they still fail miserably.

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